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I think it was around 5k. But considering his gear he did respectable damage for sure. I gotta say I'm surprised I was nearly 100% sure we wouldn't kill the boss. I underestimated how much people lack on DPS when they don't 100% understand the fight. Thats something people really need to work on cause going from 6500-8500 dps is a bit ridiculous =P
Didnt you hear? Thats why they are nerfing warrior tanks.
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1.8k hp doesn't make that big of a different friend =\ sorry.
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Tacc: I do not understand why its so funny nor do I really care. I wear what I like regardless of current fad/trend. I march to the beat of my own drum. Like I said not a sheep "YALL SHAWP AT WALLMARTS?"
it isnt so much the 1.8k hps as the auto oshi button for pallies and the LoH for manual necessity
paladin survivability is far superior with those things and when its the difference of fractions of a second between the next heal going off and death there is no human intervention i.e. using last stand.
even enraged regen is a small dot vs LoH which is a big burst of hps blah blah. not that it cant be done. nerf pallies. fuck your faces.
it isnt so much the 1.8k hps as the auto oshi button for pallies and the LoH for manual necessity
paladin survivability is far superior with those things and when its the difference of fractions of a second between the next heal going off and death there is no human intervention i.e. using last stand.
even enraged regen is a small dot vs LoH which is a big burst of hps blah blah. not that it cant be done. nerf pallies. fuck your faces.
Psst... Don't talk out ur butt too much, LoH is garbage now for a tank using on himself. Causes forbearance, got nerfed last patch. Even before LoH was nerfed Last Stand was far superior as you could anticipate needing more health for a big hit, that couldn't be done with LoH before or now.
All said, I'm not saying Pallies aren't the best tanks. I liked them alot in BC, but hated their limitations in BC (single target threat and cool downs SUCKED in BC). No doubt that things will be balanced out some in 4.0. Blizz has made it clear they aren't worried about tanks being equal as long as there isn't a population imbalance because of it and content can be cleared by all of them... and Warriors are the most played tank by a good bit still and plenty of cutting edge guilds still use them. So, my point, pallies have the edge now, but they are not way out there better by any means.
I will say from a healers perspective. There is definitely without question a noticeable difference between the damage Cru takes and the damage Typh takes. But there is also roughly a 300 gearscore difference between the 2 of them that could be most of it.
I should have been more specific in my post. I know you guys can keep the tank alive and I didn't mean for it to sound like only healers were to blame.
Prior to our two kills, we had:
DPS that wasn't maxed because they didn't know the fight
SOME minor healing issues, including the tank dying at times as well as people at range
People not being in the right place / proper management of the spores
Horrendous lag that ruined an entire night of attempts (and might have yesterday if not for our break)
Somehow all of these issues got turned into "we need togc loot in order to win" instead of "lets spend more time learning the fight".
If you look at the mitigated damage between me and cru its almost identical Tacc. I block more damage than he does, he dodges more than I do. but the equaled damage we took over last night was within 1-2% of each other. So there being a "noticeable difference" between the damage we take is not supported by the numbers unfortunately.
Like Cru said, Paladins have a slight edge right now due to the <35% hp bonus dodge, higher rates of dodge and better multipliers for end-tier gear. Meaning their gear, even if we had identical gear score, would give him more pound for pound than I would get. The other thing is consistent threat: Paladin threat has always been about 5-8% higher on boss fights, as well their dps is higher (by 5-10% again depending on rotation) - that being said - warrior tanks bring 4 awesome and essential debuffs to tanking (cmdingS, Tclap, Demo, sunder) including having 5 snap-threat abilities on 1-4s UCD's. Although it may "seem" to you that paladin tanks are superior, when you look at what each class brings to the table, average threat and w/ identical gear average dmg taken - I'd hazard to say they are so similar the difference resides purely in the player.
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Tacc: I do not understand why its so funny nor do I really care. I wear what I like regardless of current fad/trend. I march to the beat of my own drum. Like I said not a sheep "YALL SHAWP AT WALLMARTS?"
Which is why they should (and are) nerfing warrior tanks!!!!
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Does Shadowmourne decimate? Yes. Is Shadowmourne a legendary? Yes. Sad facts of life I'm afraid. In my opinion. avoid the plate wearer glowing purple with souls. But then again you don't find Shadowmourne in PvP, it finds you. - MMO Champion Forums, Shadowmourne PvP QQ Thread.
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Even before LoH was nerfed Last Stand was far superior as you could anticipate needing more health for a big hit, that couldn't be done with LoH before or now.
